By tri-Ace Super Fan (May 25, 2011) (#26)
Isabela is in no place to be talking about manners and people being mean-spirited considering she attempted to flame me to hell and back on another forum just because I was trying to give VGM collector newbies honest information.
As for the topic, if someone is willing to do the favor, I think you should at least offer a tiny bit of extra money for their effort. I mean, time is money, and so is the gas someone may use up to get to the post office. Give the person doing the favor the choice to either do it for no gain or not.
Although, between shipping back and forth and possibly a little extra money, you'd probably be looking at, what, 10 bucks at least? It's a cheap OST, can't you get it for around $20? Seems like it would be easier to just buy and then sell if you REALLY want to rip it yourself.
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By Bernhardt (May 25, 2011) (#27)
jb wrote:
To point out more of Bernhardt's silliness:
- He is the one that vehemently hates homosexuals, correct?
Not correct.
Actually, I've had one roommate who was homosexual before...I didn't learn that until I moved out, though, but when I was there, the guy was cool with me, and I was cool with him, so I know gay people can behave themselves.
Also had a trans-gendered roommate before, he/she lent me money when I needed it, I lent her/him money when they needed it, and I knew before I moved in with them.
The kind of gays I don't like are the kind who sexually prey on people who aren't interested in them, then again, I don't really care for sexual predators, gay or straight. It's the sexual predator part I don't care for, it's just that homosexuality, more often then not, lends itself to sexually predatory behavior more often than not. Open for argument, yes, but really, it's the sexually predatory gays that've created the negative public impression for gays, because they've been the only ones who've been openly gay up until this point.
If you're gay, then I guess it's your prerogative to make people understand that you don't just off and rape people against their will.
My initial experiences with gays were definitely unfavorable, in which I felt myself physically threatened, but I know not all gays are like that.
Hatred of any kind is destructive to one's own soul.
jb wrote:
Doesn't trust Google results
It's because I've been all too trusting in the past; I've clicked Google search links before, and all of a sudden, it won't let me navigate away from their site, until I accept a download of their malicious spyware. There's times I just shut down my computer, then and there, without accepting the download, and had to let me computer do a scan disk, for however long it takes, to recover from being shut down improperly.
It's why I prefer to only check out sites whose reputation has been confirmed for being trustworthy.
jb wrote:
Asks for job references from people on the Internet who have bought music from him
Hey, every little bit counts...but I've stop asking from people here, so you can get off my back about that, now.
jb wrote:
Things said the "Hi, how are you" thread
Hey, sometimes, I just get...a little moody... (bonus points if you can identify where that exact quote came from!) 
But that's also irrelevant now, since I've figured out my problems, for the time being, at least.
I've a pretty dark sense of humor at times, yes, and it can also be hard to tell when I'm joking; definitely a big fan of dry humor.
...
So, you see, I'm not really the type to go on trying to attack people's credibility, or trying to smear their reputation, but I am perfectly capable of defending myself if I have to.
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By Razakin (May 25, 2011) (#28)
Bernhardt wrote:
It's the sexual predator part I don't care for, it's just that homosexuality, more often then not, lends itself to sexually predatory behavior more often than not. Open for argument, yes, but really, it's the sexually predatory gays that've created the negative public impression for gays, because they've been the only ones who've been openly gay up until this point.
Dude, no. What I can see, straight males in the ages 18-26 are those f---ing predators. Pardon the pun. Most gay people I've seen and know are more like sheeps instead of predators.
And how being openly gay makes someone a sexual predator gay and making a negative impression? Should they stay the f---ing closet? Maybe I'm just reading wrong, but you really do seem to be damn close-minded.
Bernhardt wrote:
It's because I've been all too trusting in the past; I've clicked Google search links before, and all of a sudden, it won't let me navigate away from their site, until I accept a download of their malicious spyware. There's times I just shut down my computer, then and there, without accepting the download, and had to let me computer do a scan disk, for however long it takes, to recover from being shut down improperly.
What browser you're using? IE? I can pretty much every link I see with firefox/opera/chrome and not get anything, except for those hornyexplicitflyingnudeparrots.ru.com.cn.net links. And little sweet apps like AdBlock+ do help with annoying ads even, which sometimes might have malware, especially if you're checking some torrent sites like The Piratebay. (which btw is a nice site).
And I wonder if you have even read the few tips I gave you for the hunt of the SD2 OSV (not ost!).
(edit, fixed the www-link so it wouldn't open, no idea if site like that exists)
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By Bernhardt (May 25, 2011) (#29)
Razakin wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:
It's the sexual predator part I don't care for, it's just that homosexuality, more often then not, lends itself to sexually predatory behavior more often than not. Open for argument, yes, but really, it's the sexually predatory gays that've created the negative public impression for gays, because they've been the only ones who've been openly gay up until this point.
Dude, no. What I can see, straight males in the ages 18-26 are those f---ing predators. Pardon the pun. Most gay people I've seen and know are more like sheeps instead of predators.
And how being openly gay makes someone a sexual predator gay and making a negative impression? Should they stay the f---ing closet? Maybe I'm just reading wrong, but you really do seem to be damn close-minded.
Just because a person is openly gay, doesn't make them a sexual predator. But if an openly gay person acts like a sexual predator, people are going to get the impression that all gays are sexual predators - that's why people have the negative conception of gays that they do - because the only people who've been open about being gays - up until now - were the ones who acted like sexual predators.
I'm just trying to explain why people have the negative conception of gays that they do...and what can be done about it.
You don't really seem like you're interested in trying to understand what I have to say. It seems like you you just want to make attacks.
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By Razakin (May 25, 2011) (#30)
Bernhardt wrote:
Just because a person is openly gay, doesn't make them a sexual predator. But if an openly gay person acts like a sexual predator, people are going to get the impression that all gays are sexual predators - that's why people have the negative conception of gays that they do - because the only people who've been open about being gays - up until now - were the ones who acted like sexual predators.
AH, I think I misread a bit. So all the gays near you have been sexually active seekers? And I'd say people have negative conception of gays because they think they're dirty for having anal sex (which tons of straight people enjoy), and not being the norm that the bible says.
But would you say that almost every straight would be predator if people near you would act like that?
Bernhardt wrote:
I'm just trying to explain why people have the negative conception of gays that they do...and what can be done about it.
Well, I have to differ with why people have negative conception of gay people. It has nothing to do with predatoring, and heck to be honest, I would be happy if some guy would think I'm cute enought to be hit on!
Bernhardt wrote:
You don't really seem like you're interested in trying to understand what I have to say. It seems like you you just want to make attacks.
I am, and trust me if I would want to attack you verbally, you would see it. And probably laugh at the silly attempt. I'm no dancey with my words of aggression.
By Princess-Isabela (May 25, 2011) (#31)
tri-Ace Super Fan wrote:
Isabela is in no place to be talking about manners and people being mean-spirited considering she attempted to flame me to hell and back on another forum just because I was trying to give VGM collector newbies honest information.
If someone wants to spread slander, that won't be taken politely.
Why do you guys think almost all of the game music seller individuals disappeared over the years?
It's not worth the hassle/effort tracking an album, prices skyrocketed through the roof and it's difficult to get a deal on a soundtrack as it is.
I've sold hundreds of albums way below cost of what they would cost you today, from either Japanese sellers on Yahoo Japan, Kahori or whomever else is still in the business today.
I did hundreds upon hundreds transactions with the game music enthusiasts, collectors, etc...
Needless to say they were all happy, so think before you want to call out someone just because you think price is too high, it's unprofessional and rude.
jb wrote:
About the buyer-beware part/gouging seller comment -- I wasn't directly commenting on the practices, only the irony in the fact that Isabella's prices are almost as extreme/insane as Bern's request.
There was nothing ironic about that.
Manners, have nothing to do with it, it was just business.
Don't mix these two.
Not to mention I haven't posted a single selling thread in years, so it's kind of sad you'd resort to such comments regarding the prices.
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By tri-Ace Super Fan (May 25, 2011) (#32)
What slander? I didn't state anything false. I recounted a first-hand experience, and it happened just as I said.
By the way, "Slander" is oral; "libel" is written. My statement wasn't libelous either, though.
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By Princess-Isabela (May 25, 2011) (#33)
tri-Ace Super Fan wrote:
What slander? I didn't state anything false. I recounted a first-hand experience, and it happened just as I said.
By the way, "Slander" is oral; "libel" is written. My statement wasn't libelous either, though.
You've heard the price I offered album for, you declined.
Do you also go on message boards letting people know not to buy from VGMWorld or various Japanese individuals on Yahoo Japan because price is way over the MSRP?
It was definitely not your place to do so
And once again you recalling something from years ago is pretty sad.
By LiquidAcid (May 25, 2011) (#34)
I don't see the problem when someone points out that a seller is potentially trying to rip you off. People communicate and word goes around. If you build a business around misinformation (read: people don't know that the items can be bought much cheaper somewhere else) then you have no right to complain....
By Princess-Isabela (May 25, 2011) (#35)
LiquidAcid wrote:
I don't see the problem when someone points out that a seller is potentially trying to rip you off. People communicate and word goes around. If you build a business around misinformation (read: people don't know that the items can be bought much cheaper somewhere else) then you have no right to complain....
Except albums I used to sell couldn't be bought almost anywhere else, save for Japanese services, so that's a flawed statement.
You want an example? Super Donkey Kong 2 album for $90 and back then people would say that's a crazy amount for the album, today you see this particular album going for hundreds of dollars, do you see people complain about that? no - because it's an open market.
No one has the right to tell people how much they value their albums for if they were discontinued and there is no way of purchasing them almost anywhere.
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By rein (May 25, 2011) (#36)
Princess-Isabela wrote:
You want an example? Super Donkey Kong 2 album for $90 and back then people would say that's a crazy amount for the album, today you see this particular album going for hundreds of dollars, do you see people complain about that? no - because it's an open market.
I would like to hear your explanation for my example: the Final Fantasy VIII Limited Edition soundtrack for $60. How do you explain this pricing other than as an attempt to snare a buyer who doesn't know better?
By LiquidAcid (May 25, 2011) (#37)
I think I got enough "examples" from items on your VGMdb salelist in the past, so thank you.
By Bernhardt (May 25, 2011) (#38)
Razakin wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:
Just because a person is openly gay, doesn't make them a sexual predator. But if an openly gay person acts like a sexual predator, people are going to get the impression that all gays are sexual predators - that's why people have the negative conception of gays that they do - because the only people who've been open about being gays - up until now - were the ones who acted like sexual predators.
AH, I think I misread a bit. So all the gays near you have been sexually active seekers? And I'd say people have negative conception of gays because they think they're dirty for having anal sex (which tons of straight people enjoy), and not being the norm that the bible says.
Well, yes, there is that. The Book of Leviticus was more about hygiene than token acts of submission to God - though it was detailed in there how to perform sacrifices - there are still plenty atheists out there who don't like gays, either, and it's because they're afraid of being raped by them, because that's what they've told me.
To say that The Bible or religion in general is the SOLE reason that people are prejudice against gays would also be thick-headed, if you asked me, but it is part of the reason, or one of many reasons.
People sometimes actually have practical, objective reasons for their biases, as opposed to just blind prejudice.
After all, sexual aggression isn't unique to straight people. To say that there haven't been gay people who forcefully raped someone against their will would be refusing to acknowledge fact, but one also ought to note that not all gays are like that, either.
But, otherwise, I don't know if a person's gay, unless I know they've expressed interest in someone; I'm sure there's plenty of people around me who're gay, and I don't even know about it.
Whether a person is celibate, modest about their sexual advances, or fucks away with reckless abandon is independent of their sexuality - whether they are gay or straight.
The thing about prejudice, is that you shouldn't overgeneralize - you shouldn't let one bad apple - or a few bad apples - spoil the entire bunch.
Razakin wrote:
But would you say that almost every straight would be predator if people near you would act like that?
Well, to quote a friend of mine, "Everyone fucks." That's the cynical conception, anyway. Really, I guess abstinent, celibate people like me are rare, as I've discovered quite some time ago, and as I keep on discovering.
Point being, people already have the conception that all the other people around them have sex with reckless abandon.
And really, there are people who think homosexuality is just a symptom of people becoming more erotic in general; the thought being that people are becoming so sexually aggressive, that they're willing to have sex/rape people of the same sex.
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By Amazingu (May 25, 2011) (#39)
Bernhardt wrote:
And really, there are people who think homosexuality is just a symptom of people becoming more erotic in general; the thought being that people are becoming so sexually aggressive, that they're willing to have sex/rape people of the same sex.
Because God knows people didn't have gay sex thousands of years ago, right?
Seriously, Bern, where do you live?
Is everyone around you a retard or something?
By tri-Ace Super Fan (May 25, 2011) (#40)
Princess-Isabela wrote:
You've heard the price I offered album for, you declined.
Do you also go on message boards letting people know not to buy from VGMWorld or various Japanese individuals on Yahoo Japan because price is way over the MSRP?
I never was in communication with you for a transaction, so I don't know where you're getting this whole "heard the price and declined" business. You must be confusing me with someone else (which makes me assume that you've probably flamed countless people for saying anything negative about your sales).
I'm all about informing people and letting them make their own decisions. If someone wants to overpay to get a tough-to-find item immediately rather than wait for a better deal to come along, that's a valid choice. I'd tell even a friend if they're overcharging for something, if only out of concern that they're just going to sit on a item for all eternity rather than pricing it to move.
In the scenario in which I brought up, you were trying to take advantage of uninformed new soundtrack collectors. I had the "audacity" to inform them that you charge more than market value for your items, and you flipped out over that, which I assume is because I ruined your plan. Not surprisingly, you disappeared from the forum not long after that, since you only ever joined to spam your soundtrack sales.
By Bernhardt (May 25, 2011) (#41)
Amazingu wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:
And really, there are people who think homosexuality is just a symptom of people becoming more erotic in general; the thought being that people are becoming so sexually aggressive, that they're willing to have sex/rape people of the same sex.
Because God knows people didn't have gay sex thousands of years ago, right?
Seriously, Bern, where do you live?
Is everyone around you a retard or something?
Sodom & Gomarrah. Of course I know people have had gay sex since thousands of years ago, not in just Biblical history, either!
People I'm talking to aren't retarded, they're just elderly.
Try bringing your socially progressive thinking along their way, and try not catching an earful from them...
You shouldn't speak so assumingly of people; kind of makes you seem guilty of the same presumptuousness that you condemn other people for.
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By Tim JC (May 25, 2011) (#42)
This thread is a lurker's dream. Soundtrack-swapping hate to gay love; didn't see that twist coming. It also reminds me why I'm more comfortable being a silent observer.
By Bernhardt (May 25, 2011) (#43)
Tim JC wrote:
This thread is a lurker's dream. Soundtrack-swapping hate to gay love; didn't see that twist coming. It also reminds me why I'm more comfortable being a silent observer.
Well, hey, JB just had to make personal attacks on me, y'know?
Sometimes, I ought to just let things go, but then stuff like this happens; it's just easier setting the record straight...no pun...or offense...intended.
But that's just the thing: I never intend to offend anyone, but I always unwittingly end up getting someone after me all the time.
People, in general, just really seem to be up in arms these days, and everyone around here seems really unhappy as of late, and everyone's all just lashing out at each other now.
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By the_miker (May 25, 2011) (#44)
By Princess-Isabela (May 25, 2011) (#45)
LiquidAcid wrote:
I think I got enough "examples" from items on your VGMdb salelist in the past, so thank you.
And that's perfectly alright.
Definitely not for bargain hunters.
rein wrote:
I would like to hear your explanation for my example: the Final Fantasy VIII Limited Edition soundtrack for $60. How do you explain this pricing other than as an attempt to snare a buyer who doesn't know better?
You need a reality check if you think $60 for LE FFVIII is some extraordinary amount of money.
tri-Ace Super Fan wrote:
I never was in communication with you for a transaction, so I don't know where you're getting this whole "heard the price and declined" business. You must be confusing me with someone else (which makes me assume that you've probably flamed countless people for saying anything negative about your sales).
Yup, that never happened, you were the only one who had the nerve to talk trash on public forum about "overcharging" ost's in my selling thread.
I have not once received an email saying that albums are too expensive, if anything people were glad that I could supply them with an obscure cd they were after for years.
tri-Ace Super Fan wrote:
I had the "audacity" to inform them that you charge more than market value for your items, and you flipped out over that, which I assume is because I ruined your plan. Not surprisingly, you disappeared from the forum not long after that, since you only ever joined to spam your soundtrack sales.
There was nothing audacious about it, you acted like a jerk, I know lot of people there, few even contacted me afterwards and called you a douche, even apologizing for your behavior.
General rule on marketplace forums is to move on if you're not interested in item offered, that means no sabotaging other people's threads unless you're a mod (which you weren't).
So in the end you haven't accomplished anything except gaining negative vibe from few people, soundtracks hardly ever sold there anyway (unless they were $5 each or less).
In general I'm quite busy so no time for chit chat, though I post there from time to time so you are outright lying about disappearing, I'm not surprised.
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By Amazingu (May 25, 2011) (#46)
Princess-Isabela wrote:
rein wrote:
I would like to hear your explanation for my example: the Final Fantasy VIII Limited Edition soundtrack for $60. How do you explain this pricing other than as an attempt to snare a buyer who doesn't know better?
You must be crazy if you think $60 for LE FFVIII is some extraordinary amount of money.
FFVIII LE does not warrant a price like that.
It goes for anything between 500 to 2000 yen on Yahoo Auctions JP.
It's not that rare, and demand isn't that high.
By Princess-Isabela (May 25, 2011) (#47)
Amazingu wrote:
Princess-Isabela wrote:
rein wrote:
I would like to hear your explanation for my example: the Final Fantasy VIII Limited Edition soundtrack for $60. How do you explain this pricing other than as an attempt to snare a buyer who doesn't know better?
You must be crazy if you think $60 for LE FFVIII is some extraordinary amount of money.
FFVIII LE does not warrant a price like that.
It goes for anything between 500 to 2000 yen on Yahoo Auctions JP.
It's not that rare, and demand isn't that high.
It ranges from 1,000 yens to 3,000-4,000 yens.
Add current conversion rate, middleman fee, shipping and $60 suddenly doesn't sound crazy, does it.
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By Tim JC (May 26, 2011) (#48)
Bernhardt wrote:
Tim JC wrote:
This thread is a lurker's dream. Soundtrack-swapping hate to gay love; didn't see that twist coming. It also reminds me why I'm more comfortable being a silent observer.
Well, hey, JB just had to make personal attacks on me, y'know?
Sometimes, I ought to just let things go, but then stuff like this happens; it's just easier setting the record straight...no pun...or offense...intended.
But that's just the thing: I never intend to offend anyone, but I always unwittingly end up getting someone after me all the time.
People, in general, just really seem to be up in arms these days, and everyone around here seems really unhappy as of late, and everyone's all just lashing out at each other now.
We just need Paul “Bear” Vasquez to come up in here and spread some joy.
And you probably need to move to the South, sit on a porch with some bluegrass fiddlers and molasses cookies, and practice saying "yep."
Seriously though, if people think you're outlandish, they'd probably round up the lynching mob if I were to share openly. You do stand out from the general crowd, but if someone is more than simply annoyed at you, I don't know...seems like they might need to deal with a pebble in their shoe or something.
By Amazingu (May 26, 2011) (#49)
Princess-Isabela wrote:
It ranges from 1,000 yens to 3,000-4,000 yens.
Add current conversion rate, middleman fee, shipping and $60 suddenly doesn't sound crazy, does it.
Man, I should start getting into this middleman business too.
By tri-Ace Super Fan (May 26, 2011) (#50)
Princess-Isabela wrote:
General rule on marketplace forums is to move on if you're not interested in item offered, that means no sabotaging other people's threads unless you're a mod (which you weren't).
It wasn't in a sale topic or in the marketplace section at all, so again I think you're confused with someone else.
I didn't bother to search before, but yeah, I see you've posted very sporadically over the last few years since then, mainly in your own sale topics.
I don't know if people contacted you privately or not, but I do know that I'm a respected member over there, people know that my aim is to simply provide helpful, factual information for other collectors, and people, mods included, publicly stated that your claims of me being a jerk and being wrong were completely unfounded. Anybody who read the topic saw that you were flipping out and putting on a shameful display.
But this is getting too irrelevant. Bottomline is that just looking at this thread and past ones on here, there are A LOT of soundtrack collectors that question your practices, and history has proven that you're extremely defensive and hostile about the subject so when you talk about someone else being mean-spirited and ill-mannered, it's laughable. You're quick to point out when you feel slighted, yet you hurl more insults than anybody else.