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Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World - No More Heroes'esque film

Or rather, a movie possibly inspired by that game, view the trailer here.

Scott Pilgrim vs The World ooks like your typical cheesy popcorn summer flick, but I guess we'll find out when it hits. This is about as close to a No More Heroes movie that I think we'll ever see, to be honest.

EDIT: I rescind that. It looks like the franchise has been around since 2004. Maybe NMH drew inspiration from it? It has a similar theme, at the very least.

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By vert1 (Jun 07, 2010) (#2)

AGGHHH. Deceptive title. Anyhow, I hope the constant video game/comic book special effects doesn't grow old because it looked cool for the brevity of a trailer. Certain parts of the movie look cool, but unfortunately I have not liked any movie after SuperBad starring Micheal Cera (I still don't understand how I continue to see them all).

No More Heroes has my favorite intro cutscene to the first level of a video game (start at 2:33):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsKPKvNf_Y8

The movie would get major cool if it had the balls to go M--fatalities et all.

edit: Defeating 7 people to win something isn't new.

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Title edited.  Being vague is one thing, misleading another.

By Razakin (Jun 07, 2010) (#4)

Too bad that this film has Cera in it, for some odd reason I just can't stand seeing him on films, so probably won't be seeing this, unless there will be Ceraless Edition made just for me.

Razakin wrote:

Too bad that this film has Cera in it, for some odd reason I just can't stand seeing him on films, so probably won't be seeing this, unless there will be Ceraless Edition made just for me.

I hear a lot of hate for Cera. Why is that?

By vert1 (Jun 07, 2010) (#6)

Same role over and over (typecast): the awkward guy who somehow gets some hot chick to fall for him and have sex with him. There's also an annoying "indie" vibe in his movies.

I think the main problem with Michael Cera (a theory of mine--I would call it the "SuperBad Curse") is that he cannot be the sole main character of a movie; he needs to be apart of a group. So he can't carry a film by himself, he needs some other characters to counteract his awkwardness--too much of his awkwardness and it becomes banal. The whole winning over the girl's heart high school plot is too played out now and Cera tends to star in movies that don't delineate or find a way to charm the audience because of the ever looming predictable "She's Out Of Your League" grown-out-loud happy ending.

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By Razakin (Jun 07, 2010) (#7)

Idolores wrote:

I hear a lot of hate for Cera. Why is that?

I just can't stand his face or acting, both make me want to punch someone or something. Some shrink can tell me why's that.

By Zane (Jun 07, 2010) (#8)

That trailer was awesome. Count me IN!

I loved Arrested Development and thought he was great in it, but for some reason I just don't find him terribly appealing in movies.  Not sure why (probably the rest of the AD ensemble not being with him?).

 

By Bernhardt (Jun 07, 2010) (#10)

You can toss swords and bounty hunters into ANY film, and suddenly make it instantly cool.

Even if it has Cera in it.

My thoughts on Cera have already been stated above and previously.

Seth Rogan and Shia LeBeouf are also obnoxious; so is Robert Pattinson.

Well, come to think of it, there really AREN'T a whole lot of Hollywood actors these days who don't make me feel completely ill; ESPECIALLY the teen actors.

And it's rare that I actually complain about these kinds of things; should tell you exactly how much these wankers annoy me.

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By Zane (Jun 07, 2010) (#11)

Bernhardt wrote:

You can toss swords and bounty hunters into ANY film, and suddenly make it instantly cool.

Stepmom.

By Angela (Jul 23, 2010) (#12)

AICN's Quint has his review of the movie up from Comic-Con.  Sounds like it's going to be a blast:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45874

By James O (Aug 11, 2010) (#13)

Just got back from the screening we had in Edmonton, and while it's a hilarious adaptation and faithful to the spirit of the comics, as with most comic book to movie adaptations, something gets lost in the shuffle. 

Love all the VGM bits and gaming references, and I'd say Kieran Culkin and Ellen Wong get all the great bits as Wallace Wells and Knives Chau.

The ending of the movie is a bit of a mess, and it IS different than the book ending (which I preferred, but only because it fleshes out the characters more).  This could probably be a three or four hour movie if it wanted to be, but the quick pace keeps it snappy.

All in all I enjoyed it.

Zane wrote:

Stepmom.

If they direct all their violence toward Julia Roberts, I approve.

As for the movie, I dunno. On paper, it sounds fun, but what they've shown in TV ads seems pretty bad. Is it better than that, those who've seen it?

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By James O (Aug 12, 2010) (#15)

SonicPanda wrote:

As for the movie, I dunno. On paper, it sounds fun, but what they've shown in TV ads seems pretty bad. Is it better than that, those who've seen it?

The TV ads are just teases, and I will admit I was a bit wary at first as well, but if you like the Scott Pilgrim world, you'll enjoy the movie.  (at least I think so anyways)

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Idolores wrote:

Razakin wrote:

Too bad that this film has Cera in it, for some odd reason I just can't stand seeing him on films, so probably won't be seeing this, unless there will be Ceraless Edition made just for me.

I hear a lot of hate for Cera. Why is that?

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact while he may play different characters in his movies, they aren't really that different - Cera still acts like the Cera from Arrested Development where I was introduced to him.

However, in my case it's simply a case of over exposure. Cera is freakin' everywhere - like Rogan, Ferrell, the list goes on... but then this is from a Mega Man fan, so...

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By Amazingu (Aug 12, 2010) (#17)

Idolores wrote:

I hear a lot of hate for Cera. Why is that?

Personally, I've never heard of the guy, but after reading the comics and seeing the trailers, he just doesn't feel right as Scott Pilgrim somehow.

By Angela (Aug 12, 2010) (#18)

James O wrote:

The TV ads are just teases, and I will admit I was a bit wary at first as well, but if you like the Scott Pilgrim world, you'll enjoy the movie.  (at least I think so anyways)

And what of those who aren't familiar with the comic?  Is it enjoyable enough to stand on its own?

I'm on target for a weekend viewing, along with The Other Guys and The Expendables.  Should be quite the battle royale.

By James O (Aug 12, 2010) (#19)

Angela wrote:

James O wrote:

The TV ads are just teases, and I will admit I was a bit wary at first as well, but if you like the Scott Pilgrim world, you'll enjoy the movie.  (at least I think so anyways)

And what of those who aren't familiar with the comic?  Is it enjoyable enough to stand on its own?

I'm on target for a weekend viewing, along with The Other Guys and The Expendables.  Should be quite the battle royale.

As long as you can enjoy a silly comic book to movie type of flick, and you can get the theme, you'll laugh.

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By Ramza (Aug 13, 2010) (#20)

Has anyone been playing the *game* of Scott Pilgrim on PSN?

It's awesome.

It's all Anamanaguchi music. Chiptunes action.

And the game itself is like the Simpsons arcade beat'em up. But with Castle Crashers-esque leveling.

You must play. And listen. smile

By Angela (Aug 13, 2010) (#21)

Checked out the movie today.  To be honest, it took a while for it to hook me in; it suffers from a slow start that's kept only moderately amusing by the offbeat jokes and slick but not necessarily revelatory use of graphical and textual overlays.  I've never read the comic, but I suspect fans will get more joy out of these beginning sequences as they get to experience the introduction of these characters made flesh.

But then The League of Evil Exes make their debut (something like a good twenty to thirty minutes in), and the movie suddenly kicks into high gear.  The juxtaposition between these manic, kinetically-charged battles, and the story's strangely potent theme of love that ultimately propels said battles, really elevate the film.  All seven exes get their chance to shine, and each chew up the scenery in grand fashion.  Well, most of them, anyway; I'd argue that..... the Katayanagi twins didn't get as much in the way of backstory as the others did.  It's not just about the slick graphical effects during these confrontations - the actual fight choreography is well shot and inventive.  My favorites?  Definitely the battle with..... Brandon Routh's Todd Ingram (Superman turned vegan?  Wild.), and Mae Whitman's Roxy Ritcher.  (Dude!  They're fighting Katara!!)  Cast-wise, the power trio of Culkin, Ellen Wong, and Jason Schwartzman can't be beat.  Awesome performances, these.

And of course, spotting all the specific video game references is a big part of the fun.  I'm probably missing a shit-ton, but here are the ones that come to mind:

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-Enemies exploding into high-scoring gold coins.
-The use of A Link to the Past's "Title" theme in a number of places, as well the arranged version of series staple "The Goddess Appears".
-Ha, the Final Fantasy battle theme bass line.  He said "Final Fantasy II", didn't he?  Does that mean Final Fantasy IV, then?  A moot point anyway, since the original battle theme bass line was established in FFI.
-Puck-Man.  I mean Pac-Man.
-Besides the obvious Street Fighter vibe, they went out of their way to showcase a 'Reversal'.
-The Soul Calibur-esque duel between Ramona and Roxy was my favorite throwback.  Ivy's snake sword was an obvious call, though the oversized hammer looked like something Astaroth or Rock could've wielded.
-Sex "Bob-omb".  Super Mario Bros. 2, obviously.
-I head Ramona mention Subspace.  Another SMB2 reference?
-Envy's band name based on the old NES title Clash at Demonhead.
-The Katayanagi twins.  Double Dragon?
-Chaos Theater.  Earthbound!


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Of the comic book movies I've seen this year, Kick-Ass still takes the top spot, but Scott takes down Stark with a 64-hit combo.  It's an enjoyable movie once you manage to get into its groove..... and when it eventually hits its stride.  I wouldn't say no to a repeat viewing, if just to capture more references, and I'm genuinely interested in checking out the comic now.

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By Angela (Aug 19, 2010) (#22)

Ramza wrote:

Has anyone been playing the *game* of Scott Pilgrim on PSN?

It's awesome.

It's all Anamanaguchi music. Chiptunes action.

And the game itself is like the Simpsons arcade beat'em up. But with Castle Crashers-esque leveling.

You must play. And listen. smile

I just picked up the first two volumes of the comic book series; figured it'd be best to get acquainted before checking out the game.  I have, however, been listening to Anamanaguchi's score, and it's definitely a LOT of fun.  Certainly more enjoyable than Nigel Godrich's soundtrack for the film.

All rise for the Scott Pilgrim Anthem!

 

By Bernhardt (Aug 27, 2010) (#23)

Haven't read anybody else's thoughts on this yet - want to get my own down while it's still fresh in my mind.

This movie pretty much encapsulates everything that's about being in our age group...video-games, music, being 20-something, and in love...for all your older types out there, I'm sure it offers nostalgic value of what being young used to be to you...

What they dress up with humor, swords, and martial arts, really is at its core, a morality tale - put simply, don't treat women like dirt. That's what I got out of it, anyway. They just didn't use Katherine Heigl to deliver it. Or Julia Roberts. Or...you get the picture.

Honestly, I think the film appeals to both sexes, although, if you're gamer chick, or you like indie or punk music, you're probably more to get the deal than if you're friggin' Barbie.

The screening I attended was a pretty well-balanced audience, between guys and girls, but mostly younger people, from high school, to post-college.

...

As for the movie itself,

-Words appearing, spelling out sound effects, never gets old.

-Words appearing, and labeling things when you already know what they are, or what's going on; example, though not from the movie, a close-up of a kitty cat in a scene, and the word "Cat" being off to the side, and pointing to the cat.

-Words appearing, and pointing to something that WASN'T obvious. Example from the movie The word "Pee" pointing to a guy's crotch, when you otherwise wouldn't have been able to tell he'd wet himself; although, the guy DOES look at his crotch after the message appears!

-Pee jokes. Always funny. There were at least four of them.

-Knives Chau. Every expression and response this girl made, was just priceless. Between her being excited about Sex Bob-omb's performance (jump, squeal like a schoolgirl, and SPEED LINES!) and her face turning into an emoticon were highlights.

-Julie Powers being pissed off, and being bleeped once between each comma in a sentence, and her being called on it by Scott, that was priceless. "If it helps at all, I'm pissed off for you."

-Broken Social Scene "Anthems for a Seventeen Year-Old Girl." (Find sample here: http://www.amazon.com/Forgot-People-Bro … amp;sr=1-4)

The scene in which it plays, After Scott defeats The Katayanagi Twins, and he's approached by Knives (she's a seventeen year-old girl!) VERY appropriate use of the song. That's all I can say 'bout that. The fact they even used it, hits close to home for me. When a movie uses some of your favorite artists or songs, when they're not even particularly well-known, it lets you know you're on the same wavelength! Broken Social Scene for the win!

-I can't help thinking that this movie really WAS inspired specifically by No More Heroes. I want to watch interviews and behind-the-scenes for this movie. I want to hear what they all have to say!

-I think the same guy who played Second Evil Ex #2 played the jock guy in some American Pie or Teen Movie sequel; I forget which one, but they play it on either MTV or Comedy Central practically every weekend...forgot to look up the guy's name...

-Kieran Culkin who played Scott's gay roommate; are we talkin' the same Culkin as McCauley Culkin? I can see a resemblance. His character's jaded, disaffected position on life in general, priceless.

-In general, the comedic timing on part of all the actors was just spot-on, and love how they keep the frequency up on it, too; some characters (Scott's older sister!) had me laughing at least once every line they made!

-Movies are a visual medium. The more visual gags you can slip in, the more you take advantage of that; some many movies these days, they could just as easily be radio dramas, because they only really make use of speech (practically every other "Romantic" "Comedy" ever). This movie was very successful with visual gags. Yes.

-I think they expected you to have seen the trailers a bit much, before seeing the movie; I think they were pretty quick about laying it on about having to defeat 7 evil exes. "Oh, yeah, I have 7 evil exes, and you need to defeat all of them." "Hey, wait, what?" (Gets hit in the face by one of them appearing on the scene). I guess the brevity and casualness of delivering that bit of info is a part of the comedy and humor; if not, it's sloppily executed.

-Seeing a movie, set in Winter, during the Summer. That kind of scenario always messes with my perception of time and season. I should think this movie would be doing better at the box office if it had been released during a better time of the year, like, I don't know, around Thanksgiving or Christmas? Y'know, so we have other movies to see around that time of year, as opposed to the usual trash about dysfunctional families that're actually supposed to be comedies?

-Other than that, EXPLODING INTO COINS!!

-"We are Sex Bob-Omb...we're here to think about death, and be sad, and stuff..."

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By Amazingu (Aug 27, 2010) (#24)

Bernhardt wrote:

-I think they expected you to have seen the trailers a bit much, before seeing the movie; I think they were pretty quick about laying it on about having to defeat 7 evil exes. "Oh, yeah, I have 7 evil exes, and you need to defeat all of them." "Hey, wait, what?" (Gets hit in the face by one of them appearing on the scene). I guess the brevity and casualness of delivering that bit of info is a part of the comedy and humor; if not, it's sloppily executed.

I think they expected you to be familiar with the comics.
After all, they're squeezing 6 almost-200-page comics into 1 movie.
Pacing IS going to suffer.

 

By Boco (Aug 27, 2010) (#25)

Finally got a chance to see this movie and I loved it! Definitely a worthwhile outing and I suspect I'll be going back to see it again shortly. It's a real shame that it hasn't done better at the box office. I especially loved the film's style and all the references. I wonder how many I missed. XD