Kiss Me Goodbye (FF12 theme song)

http://youtube.com/w/Final-Fantasy-XII-Premier-Movie-featuring-%22Kiss-Me-Good-Bye%22?v=fo4oSnVL56A&search=angela%20aki

I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

>http://youtube.com/w/Final-Fantasy-XII-Premier-Movie-featuring-%22Kiss-Me-Good-Bye%22?v=fo4oSnVL56A&search=angela%20aki
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>I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
>Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

It looks like the URL is too long, it goes through the menu on the right...
But if you highlight from the start of the url until the end of it on the other side of the menu, it'll work.

We waited years for THIS?

OK, it's not so bad, but I was hoping for something much better than this...

Aki has a good voice, but the melody and all is, how to say, uninspired. Meh, I'm not giving Uematsu many more chances before I give up completely...

>OK, it's not so bad, but I was hoping for something much better than this...

Do please explain. What exactly is that "something" you were hoping for? And how exactly would you, as an artist specializing in the field of music, handle the project to achieve that aim?

>Aki has a good voice, but the melody and all is, how to say, uninspired. Meh, I'm not giving Uematsu many more chances before I give up completely...

I'm afraid you feel that way. I suspect, however, you are in the minority who dislike my works. I am confident that my fans will appreciate the hard work that Angela Aki and I have put into this song.

Do be aware that I'll still be around composing music in the future whether you like it or not. -1 fan out of the many is of no significance to me.

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>Do please explain. What exactly is that "something" you were hoping for? And how exactly would you, as an artist specializing in the field of music, handle the project to achieve that aim?
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Hi Nobuo (IF THAT IS YOU'RE REAL NAME!) :P

I was hoping for something a little less boring, and I would achieve that aim by making it good. Simple, eh? :P

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>I'm afraid you feel that way. I suspect, however, you are in the minority who dislike my works. I am confident that my fans will appreciate the hard work that Angela Aki and I have put into this song.
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You suspect? Let

>I was hoping for something a little less boring, and I would achieve that aim by making it good. Simple, eh? :P

I guess I shouldn't expect too much out of simpletons such as yourself. Your self proclaimed "simple" way of composing music suggests that in the long run, your opinion is worthless.

Do please continue listening to my works though.


>You suspect? Let’s take by example and look at this topic. I'd say a good 90% of people here think 'your' song is 'meh' :P

Well, there are other things to consider.

This forum is in the deep recesses of the Internet. Not many people know of its existence, so therefore, I would expect the demographic to be different.

Evidently, the people here are harder to please, but that is why I am here. Everyone has the right to enjoy music, and I will continue to work to achieve that goal.

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>I guess I shouldn't expect too much out of simpletons such as yourself. Your self proclaimed "simple" way of composing music suggests that in the long run, your opinion is worthless.
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Simpletons? Heh, that's laughable considering you compose simple music. Heck, even Mitsuda has turned to more complex music.

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>Do please continue listening to my works though.
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Will do.

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>Well, there are other things to consider.
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>This forum is in the deep recesses of the Internet. Not many people know of its existence, so therefore, I would expect the demographic to be different.
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How so?

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>Evidently, the people here are harder to please, but that is why I am here. Everyone has the right to enjoy music, and I will continue to work to achieve that goal.
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I'm sure the people here are just as easy to please as your everyday pals.

WHO ARE YOU?

>Simpletons? Heh, that's laughable considering you compose simple music. Heck, even Mitsuda has turned to more complex music.

Music is in the ear of the beholder, as I like to say. What is simple to you, may be complex to someone else.

In that aspect, I have achieved my aim. There are many ways to listen to my music, and it leaves different impressions to different people. THAT is the beauty of music.

However, I do apologise for calling you a simpleton. It's just that reading the negative feedback here can be quite distressing. I will not claim you are wrong about my music being simple. Music in the end, after all, is wholly subjective.

If we wish to discuss any further, it will only be on the subject of my music.

Thank you and have a good day.

>>Simpletons? Heh, that's laughable considering you compose simple music. Heck, even Mitsuda has turned to more complex music.
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>Music is in the ear of the beholder, as I like to say. What is simple to you, may be complex to someone else.
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>In that aspect, I have achieved my aim. There are many ways to listen to my music, and it leaves different impressions to different people. THAT is the beauty of music.
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>However, I do apologise for calling you a simpleton. It's just that reading the negative feedback here can be quite distressing. I will not claim you are wrong about my music being simple. Music in the end, after all, is wholly subjective.
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>If we wish to discuss any further, it will only be on the subject of my music.
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>Thank you and have a good day.

LOL again, OK, tell me this: Did Shiro Hamaguchi play any role in FFXII? Can you tell us about "Symphonic Poem 'Hope'"? What style can we be expected of you on Blue Dragon? Of course, there is no possible way of mistaking this info...

Mr. Uematsu-san!

Loved your arrangement 'Retentions of Conflict'. Keep up the good work!

DEAR UEMATSU-SAN

I was hoping you might be able to answer some questions regarding your works (and related works).

1. If I recall correctly, the unused music from Final Fantasy II was not later featured in the subsequent "updates" of the game (WSC and onward). Why not? I thought 'Battle 3' was quite enjoyable (although the two new battle themes are also very nice).

2. The US trailer for Final Fantasy VIII featured a distinct and highly dramatic tune not featured in the game itself. Did you compose this piece?

3. The demo version of Final Fantasy VIII featured an alternative version of "The Landing" which was quite akin to certain pieces of the score for the film "The Rock". I believe you have already commented on this at times, but I would appreciate a personal clarification of the song's origins and why it was not featured in the retail version of the game.

4. DynamiTracer is a relatively unknown game in the West, but it has nonetheless been recognized by some for it's rather unusual score. Can you cite any specific influences you had in composing the music, especially the title theme?

5. Sales of the X-box 360 in Japan have reportedly been rather below expectations - and in the views of some pessimists, it seems to be repeating the failures of it's predecessor. Considering you are currently scoring three (fairly notable) titles for the system, are you feeling any apprehension about how much exposure your work will get, or worry for the future of Mistwalker?

(not that you're really in desperate need of exposure...)

DEAR PILGRIM, YOU ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL TO ME

>I was hoping you might be able to answer some questions regarding your works (and related works).
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>1. If I recall correctly, the unused music from Final Fantasy II was not later featured in the subsequent "updates" of the game (WSC and onward). Why not? I thought 'Battle 3' was quite enjoyable (although the two new battle themes are also very nice).
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>2. The US trailer for Final Fantasy VIII featured a distinct and highly dramatic tune not featured in the game itself. Did you compose this piece?
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>3. The demo version of Final Fantasy VIII featured an alternative version of "The Landing" which was quite akin to certain pieces of the score for the film "The Rock". I believe you have already commented on this at times, but I would appreciate a personal clarification of the song's origins and why it was not featured in the retail version of the game.
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>4. DynamiTracer is a relatively unknown game in the West, but it has nonetheless been recognized by some for it's rather unusual score. Can you cite any specific influences you had in composing the music, especially the title theme?
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>5. Sales of the X-box 360 in Japan have reportedly been rather below expectations - and in the views of some pessimists, it seems to be repeating the failures of it's predecessor. Considering you are currently scoring three (fairly notable) titles for the system, are you feeling any apprehension about how much exposure your work will get, or worry for the future of Mistwalker?
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>(not that you're really in desperate need of exposure...)

Will he save the West, or RUIN it?

Why is your IP located in St.Joseph/MO/USA? =P

>>OK, it's not so bad, but I was hoping for something much better than this...
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>Do please explain. What exactly is that "something" you were hoping for? And how exactly would you, as an artist specializing in the field of music, handle the project to achieve that aim?
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>>Aki has a good voice, but the melody and all is, how to say, uninspired. Meh, I'm not giving Uematsu many more chances before I give up completely...
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>I'm afraid you feel that way. I suspect, however, you are in the minority who dislike my works. I am confident that my fans will appreciate the hard work that Angela Aki and I have put into this song.
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>Do be aware that I'll still be around composing music in the future whether you like it or not. -1 fan out of the many is of no significance to me.

Re: Kiss Me Goodbye 'FF12 theme song'

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>I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
>Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

Eyes On Me was wonderful.

Hmh

Not that bad a song actually, but it doesn't really deliver fully with all that other noise in the background.

I'm a little tired with those lame-ass love ballads, though.

Meant to reply to the first post -_-;

As opposed to what?

Lame-ass instrumentals?

I really don't understand what's all this disgust with vocal songs in game soundtracks. Vocal songs are another form of music that I think complement the emotion of the game quite well. I loved when "Suteki da ne" and "Eyes On Me" played in their respective scenes, in addition to liking them as stand-alone songs.

>I'm a little tired with those lame-ass love ballads, though.

>I really don't understand what's all this disgust with vocal songs in game soundtracks. Vocal songs are another form of music that I think complement the emotion of the game quite well. I loved when "Suteki da ne" and "Eyes On Me" played in their respective scenes, in addition to liking them as stand-alone songs.

I thank you for your positive feedback. The fact that you appreciate my works as stand-alone songs as well as in-game makes me twice as proud of what I do.

>Lame-ass instrumentals?
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>I really don't understand what's all this disgust with vocal songs in game soundtracks. Vocal songs are another form of music that I think complement the emotion of the game quite well. I loved when "Suteki da ne" and "Eyes On Me" played in their respective scenes, in addition to liking them as stand-alone songs.

I'm not saying that I'm "disgusted with vocal songs in game soundtracks", I'm just tired of the common VG vocal song genre. There are other subjects for songs/lyrics than love. But then again, most of existing songs are about love (at least that's what it feels like).

>Not that bad a song actually, but it doesn't really deliver fully with all that other noise in the background.

Then I assume you are eagerly waiting for the release of Angela Aki's FFXII single, where you can enjoy the song in all its glory.

>I'm a little tired with those lame-ass love ballads, though.

A common theme throughout the Final Fantasy series is the love and compassion that exists in mankind. That is why I like to express this feeling through the use of vocal songs, sung by someone who is deeply in touch with their inner selves.

I'm sorry you tire of it.

>Eyes On Me was wonderful.

I have passed this message to Faye Wong and she thanks you for the compliment.

mm.. : |

I don't think it's a great song. It sounds quite bland and generic, and the lyrics... : | I expected far more quality.

What's really nice is the angst-filled voice acting, and the last scene in that video (if taken from the game itself) is extremely telling. FF12 will most probably be really tragic.

Meh... :(

>I don't think it's a great song. It sounds quite bland and generic, and the lyrics... : | I expected far more quality.
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>What's really nice is the angst-filled voice acting, and the last scene in that video (if taken from the game itself) is extremely telling. FF12 will most probably be really tragic.

Square and the others need to stop with those songs in every RPG! I'm tired of them...

>Square and the others need to stop with those songs in every RPG! I'm tired of them...

You know, what's funny is, that almost no game soundtrack is lacking a catchy OP/ED theme as of late. I can understand your concerns, I also think one vocal song on a 3~4 disc OST makes the soundtrack disappointing as a whole - but when you actually hear this song in context with the game, perhaps you'd like it?

Seriously, I don't have a problem with songs in games, as long as they're primarily made for them and not "inspired by".

>but when you actually hear this song in context with the game, perhaps you'd like it?

Any game composer would ask you that you at least listen to their songs in context within the game before you judge their songs harshly.

I am no different. I am confident that the emotion and feelings that I express within the song will be obvious when you eventually encouter it within the game. Perhaps then, you might appreciate "Kiss Me Goodbye" for what it is.

>Square and the others need to stop with those songs in every RPG! I'm tired of them...

As Teioh mentioned, pretty much every game these days has a vocal song to accompany it.

Perhaps it is testament to the fact that the majority of game players appreciate the messages that the songs give.

I for one, hope that "Kiss Me Goodbye" will impart positive messages upon the people who listen to it.

Me likey.

>http://youtube.com/w/Final-Fantasy-XII-Premier-Movie-featuring-%22Kiss-Me-Good-Bye%22?v=fo4oSnVL56A&search=angela%20aki
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>I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
>Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

Very nice from Uematsu

I'm eatin' chop-suey tonight! ( :

Nice to see STC met their Uematsu bashing quota

>http://youtube.com/w/Final-Fantasy-XII-Premier-Movie-featuring-%22Kiss-Me-Good-Bye%22?v=fo4oSnVL56A&search=angela%20aki
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>I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
>Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

Agreed. Ya'll a bunch of haytas!

o_O

I consider myself quite a fan of Uematsu, and I honestly thought little of this song. Please, take your bigotry away.

>I consider myself quite a fan of Uematsu, and I honestly thought little of this song. Please, take your bigotry away.

Thank you for appreciating my music, and I am sorry that the hard work Angela and I put into this song was not good enough for you.

Crap

surprisingly uninspired coming from U and being the vocal song. i hope he's not dead but this gives me very bad feelings

>surprisingly uninspired coming from U and being the vocal song. i hope he's not dead but this gives me very bad feelings

Do not worry, I am still very much alive.

I am sorry you don't like this particular song. I promise to work harder on my future songs and to meet your high expectations.

Painfully generic

Me Likey too

>http://youtube.com/w/Final-Fantasy-XII-Premier-Movie-featuring-%22Kiss-Me-Good-Bye%22?v=fo4oSnVL56A&search=angela%20aki
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>I like it, it's definitely better than Suteki Da Ne (horrible) and Eyes On Me to me.
>Can't tell if I like it better than Melodies Of Life yet, though.

Meh

It's alright, pretty generic though. I'm sure I'll end up liking it after I hear it in game. They should have just had Sakimoto compose the vocal song too since he's doing the whole soundtrack anyway. He did a fine job on Lia's Colors of Life album and Breath of Fire V's Castle-imitation. At least that stuff had a unique sound.

And on a side note, did anyone hear this Angela Aki girl butcher Eyes On Me yet? Link below to a sample for anyone curious.. though I must warn you, don't crank the speakers up too high or your ears will start to ooze red.

http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/ES/AngelaAki/ESCL-2768/

-Mike

A frown was definitely shown..

>It's alright, pretty generic though. I'm sure I'll end up liking it after I hear it in game. They should have just had Sakimoto compose the vocal song too since he's doing the whole soundtrack anyway. He did a fine job on Lia's Colors of Life album and Breath of Fire V's Castle-imitation. At least that stuff had a unique sound.
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Didn't Chihiro Onitsuka compose "Castle Imitation"? Let's not forget "Holy Spirit (Spirit's Theme)", his first VGM vocal composition. So divine and innocent. That alone wins over every Uematsu vocal, to me.

>They should have just had Sakimoto compose the vocal song too since he's doing the whole soundtrack anyway. He did a fine job on Lia's Colors of Life album and Breath of Fire V's Castle-imitation. At least that stuff had a unique sound.

Sakimoto-san appreciates your comments. Breath of Fire V was not overly popular in Western countries so not many people had the chance to listen the associated vocal song.

I, actually did ask Sakimoto-san if he would like to take another opportunity at composing a vocal song. He replied "Surely you jest! I already have my hands full with FFXII's original soundtrack!"

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>Sakimoto-san appreciates your comments. Breath of Fire V was not overly popular in Western countries so not many people had the chance to listen the associated vocal song.
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Bing! Caught out! Sakimoto didn't compose "Castle Imitation". WHO ARE YOU? :P

>Bing! Caught out! Sakimoto didn't compose "Castle Imitation". WHO ARE YOU? :P

Sorry, but you are not as smart as you think you are.

Chihiro Onitsuka, she provided the vocals for the song Castle Imitation. Sakimoto-san composed the music.

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>>Bing! Caught out! Sakimoto didn't compose "Castle Imitation". WHO ARE YOU? :P
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>Sorry, but you are not as smart as you think you are.
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>Chihiro Onitsuka, she provided the vocals for the song Castle Imitation. Sakimoto-san composed the music.

Sorry Nobuo, you're wrong. Linear notes say:

[Castle . Imitation (BREATH OF FIRE V DRAGON QUARTER)]

Performed by Chihiro Onitsuka
Music and Lyrics by Chihiro Onitsuka
Liscensed by Toshiba EMI Ltd

Please, tell us who you are? :P

>Sorry Nobuo, you're wrong. Linear notes say:

>[Castle . Imitation (BREATH OF FIRE V DRAGON QUARTER)]

>Performed by Chihiro Onitsuka
>Music and Lyrics by Chihiro Onitsuka
>Liscensed by Toshiba EMI Ltd

Hmm, I admit I may be wrong in this issue. As I like to say, one is unable to progress unless one sees his own mistakes.

From the information I had available, I was under the impression that Sakimoto-san composed the music. I am pretty sure however, he had an indirect role in the composition of the song. I will raise this issue with him the next time we have lunch.

>Hmm, I admit I may be wrong in this issue. As I like to say, one is unable to progress unless one sees his own mistakes.
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>From the information I had available, I was under the impression that Sakimoto-san composed the music. I am pretty sure however, he had an indirect role in the composition of the song. I will raise this issue with him the next time we have lunch.

LOL, Nobuo, keep going with your 'truth'. Also, it's pretty sad you didn't know considering you were partners in composing FFXII score. What are you trying to gain through lying?

Also, last time I heard, the real Nobuo could hardly speak much English on the stage of More Friends. Yet, you come to us speaking fine. Hmm?

>LOL, Nobuo, keep going with your 'truth'. Also, it's pretty sad you didn't know considering you were partners in composing FFXII score. What are you trying to gain through lying?

I was not involved with Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter, therefore I do not know the full details. FFXII is a different story.

Like I said, I will raise this question with Sakimoto-san in the future.

>Also, last time I heard, the real Nobuo could hardly speak much English on the stage of More Friends. Yet, you come to us speaking fine. Hmm?

You'd be surprised how quickly I can pick up English! If I wasn't a music composer, I can imagine being an English teacher!

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>I was not involved with Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter, therefore I do not know the full details. FFXII is a different story.
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>Like I said, I will raise this question with Sakimoto-san in the future.
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So you couldn't possibly talk to Sakimoto during the development of FFXII? LOL.

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>You'd be surprised how quickly I can pick up English! If I wasn't a music composer, I can imagine being an English teacher!
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Hehe, yeah right.

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>Please, tell us who you are? :P

It's either Mr. Uematsu himself, or A True Dedicated Last Fan

I wish their aim was to put Square out of their...

misery. Sakaguchi and Uematsu's aim, that is. Yoichi Wada sure knows how to drag a company through the sewers, finding all sorts money people thought they were throwing into wishing wells along the way.

No worries. Sakaguchi and Uematsu will stick to doing what they did to MAKE Square. Mistwalker and Smile Please will then become the new Square, overthrowing Wada's evil Square Enix empire. :P